Subject	Consumers have no clout really, so unless ethanol shoots up
Posted by	LJZTT on March 21, 2008 at 12:15 PM
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In Reply To	we need to stop this ethanol fuel while we can posted by ghostinator (fl) on March 21, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Message	a middle school or causes birth defects, legislators are not interested in the consumer's best interest. So I'd forget about stopping it. What I'd recommend is reward the companies that don't do business with the world's asspain nations. The following information was posted by the okzcc secretary on our forum. "These companies import Middle Eastern oil: Shell......................... 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels Amoco..........................62,231,000 barrels Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Sunoco................0 barrels Conoco................0 barrels Sinclair...............0 barrels BP/Phillips..........0 barrels Hess.....................0 barrels ARCO..................0 barrels If you go to Sunoco.com, you will get a list of the station locations near you." Citgo gas is from Venezuela. A country run by a real douchebag who has been caught red-handed earlier this month funding/supporting the FARC in its 35+year civil war against Colombia's democratic government. These people are largely responsible for and are in "cahoots" with the cocaine cartels in that nation and use cocaine funds to fund their war, and currently have 3 Americans held hostage. Don't send that douchebag a penny if it can be avoided either please. No coincidence 7-11 dropped Citgo as their supplier a couple years back, kudos to 7-11. search said you suck (n/m) - Wilks. 01:38:02 09/06/06 The MANtage....be a real man
Follow Ups	suck it ethanol pt III - Dallas DamonZ 09:25:59 03/21/08 my intuition is that this was a Government-run test - ZEngineer 09:41:23 03/21/08 I don't know wtf you just said... - Kenny 10:08:13 03/21/08 that's only Phase 1, my simple little friend - ZEngineer 10:12:38 03/21/08 No, no, and non-applicable. (n/m) - Kenny 10:14:37 03/21/08 Kunni 4 Prez - You'd save us a ton of money! (n/m) - ZEngineer 10:16:33 03/21/08 Why use corn? - Bezza 10:18:28 03/21/08 Lobbyists. (n/m) - Kenny 10:26:31 03/21/08 Sponsors for an event I was working at a couple years ago - Nadir(Detroit) 10:48:00 03/21/08 BP is moving away from that campaign. - Spee 17:51:15 03/21/08 lol (n/m) - Spee 17:28:33 03/21/08 it takes MORE than a gallon of oil to make it - genic 21:54:01 03/21/08 You got it .. this is all what it's about - PLEAZURE in CA (SD) 03:21:32 03/22/08 Good read. - Z_Cherub 09:42:16 03/21/08 pwned (n/m) - JumWilmZ(AZ) 09:57:38 03/21/08 we need to stop this ethanol fuel while we can - ghostinator (fl) 09:57:51 03/21/08 ive been getting use to driving my girlfriend's civic - Alan(NJ) 10:06:01 03/21/08 My Z is my only car, it would cost me more to get a beater - ghostinator (fl) 10:21:06 03/21/08 yeah i cant stand the civic - Alan(NJ) 10:24:09 03/21/08 i hate getting on the highway with economy cars - ghostinator (fl) 10:40:13 03/21/08 Consumers have no clout really, so unless ethanol shoots up - LJZTT 12:15:46 03/21/08 You've been owned by Snopes.com. - Dustin 00:17:30 03/22/08 Great editorial, now if only congress would read it. (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 10:07:03 03/21/08 even if they read, they wont change a thing: - Alan(NJ) 10:09:53 03/21/08 Subsidies don't generate tax revenue, they are an expense. (n/m) - Kenny 10:12:42 03/21/08 Sadly all the requirement of ethanol does is cause - Audioquest 10:46:34 03/21/08 wow. you must have read the article. (n/m) - Spee 18:12:05 03/21/08 niiiice. (n/m) - Waco300zx(DFW) 11:53:23 03/21/08 standard (n/m) - LJZTT 11:58:12 03/21/08 pisses me off so much & we can't do a damn thing (n/m) - Ashman2k2 12:10:47 03/21/08 just like voting - Alan(NJ) 12:12:39 03/21/08 Shouldn't surprise any educated person why we have the - LJZTT 12:18:11 03/21/08 Man-made Global Warming hoax = ethanol hoax = death of Z - Jonez 12:25:36 03/21/08 Global Warming=government overpaying scientists that make up - Alan(NJ) 12:28:07 03/21/08 50 years ago, scientists were issuing studies suggesting - ZEngineer 12:32:00 03/21/08 i wish i had a job like that - Alan(NJ) 12:34:33 03/21/08 aka: weatherman - they don't have to be right or wrong - The Devils Z 12:48:46 03/21/08 ugh. - Waco300zx(DFW) 12:56:17 03/21/08 exactly --it is a job as Alan(NJ) said he wished he - The Devils Z 13:04:28 03/21/08 "I wish I was a tv forcaster in SD, Cali. They'd ask me, - rufflez 13:25:49 03/21/08 I use my Granma's old fashion method... - Cap927(Boston) 13:03:09 03/21/08 exactly - gmom was smart ! (n/m) - The Devils Z 13:05:09 03/21/08 I've seen TV forecasters get the "current weather" part of - ZEngineer 13:06:23 03/21/08 lol (n/m) - The Devils Z 13:21:18 03/21/08 Same here, but usually on the radio - dogpile 15:00:08 03/21/08 Try a career in religion :) if things don't go the way - blacktwin 13:30:55 03/21/08 So true... Organized religion, the oldest con-artist (n/m) - tdogzjoint 09:40:42 03/22/08 Yep. (n/m) - Inzane 00:13:51 03/23/08 if you dont believe the earth is getting hotter then you are - volcomstone550 12:47:19 03/21/08 its all cyclical... Al Gore's own information shows that... (n/m) - Waco300zx(DFW) 12:51:39 03/21/08 yup, along with his "scare tactics" (n/m) - volcomstone550 12:54:05 03/21/08 it is. But if you think WE had anything to do with it... - Spee 18:20:02 03/21/08 you don't believe humans negatively impact the earth? (n/m) - dpjax 12:52:06 03/21/08 Yep - lobbyists are pushing to get a blend increase of - jzack 12:52:35 03/21/08 or sell it soon at peak market value... (n/m) - volcomstone550 12:55:07 03/21/08 Sadly - we may be past that point already?... (n/m) - jzack 15:18:56 03/21/08 I hope you are kidding. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 22:34:29 03/21/08 Hoax, Not likely... Man-made global warming is very real... - tdogzjoint 05:03:16 03/22/08 Oh really...please provide proof - Jonez 20:09:06 03/22/08 I thought most people didn't believe it yet... - tdogzjoint 00:36:43 03/23/08 1. Ethanol sucks for cars and the enviro. - 5280Z_nightstalker 12:53:38 03/21/08 Re: suck it ethanol pt III - uz32tt 13:07:25 03/21/08 Hopefully the boom in ND w/ the Bakken will... - durango300z 15:14:17 03/21/08 just more motivation for my E85 swap! (n/m) - nemo1080 15:51:32 03/21/08 some of these responses are very sensitive lol (n/m) - z_samurai 16:00:55 03/21/08 great info. (n/m) - Spee 17:26:40 03/21/08 Here is some good info on ethanol. - DVDBURN (MD) 21:13:49 03/21/08
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